Where is the Ravine?
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You can park your car on Fox Hollow, and walk from Grandview down Ravine Avenue. The ravine will be on your right. You can't really enjoy the ravine if you drive past it. You'll need to look hard to see the old stone house. The proposed development will basically finish off what is left of the open space at the upper end of the ravine.